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HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 13:30:00 - [1] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 13:31:13 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Well... As a total outsider who just eagerly follows the 0.0 war descriptions here is my (probably worthless) 2 cents. The Goons will be the dominate superpower in EvE for the forseeable future, until the next great logistical juggernaut takes its place. For all the bashing of the Goons, we have learned quite a bit about EvE from their war with BoB. 1. High skillpoints and K/D ratios, while fun for small gang PvP, have little impact on territorial control (which is the EvE endgame). The traditional metrics that have been used to define "greatness" in this game are now almost entirely obsolete. 2. The ability to bring other alliance and factions into your cause is essential. 3. Logistics, logistics, logistics. Logistics, more than any other factor, determines the success of a large alliance in EvE. I'm not just talking about the micro logistics like stront timing and moving large forces, but also Macro logistics like maintaing proper supply and coordinating multi-front attacks with a variety of parties. Individual PvP skill is now totally irrelevant to control of 0.0. If Tri wants to be "the next big thing" in EvE they need to have more than good PvPers/fleet commanders, they need to have folks who are experts at the logisticl enterprise behind taking and holding large sections of 0.0 space. While I could do without the obnoxious behavior, ultimately what the Goons have done is a great thing for the health of this game. They have shown that new players can come in and make a real impact on the game, without having eleventy-billion skillpoints. For those who cannot be bothered to read all of that he said that those with the overwhelming numbers will win in a terratorial war and that is RAGOON. Well duh. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 14:28:00 - [2] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:29:54 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:29:23 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN For those who cannot be bothered to read all of that he said that those with the overwhelming numbers will win in a terratorial war and that is RAGOON. Well duh. No, what I am saying is the group with superior logistical management will win territorial wars, and that this skill is vastly different from pvp/fleet management. Fleet management wins battles. Logistics management wins territory. In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time, even if they suck at both logistics and fleet managment. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 14:31:00 - [3] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:34:27 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 14:31:44 Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 14:29:41 Originally by: HEY LISTEN In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. Tell that to ASCN or D2. Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 15:38:00 - [4] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 15:44:02 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. Your self delusion is magnificent to behold. ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. My bad i must have included all the so called pets GOONS claim and continue to post about that BOB had fight along side them (and won their wars for them alegedly) in my calculations. Strange how you only include those pesky little pet/allies in your posts when it suits you is it not?. Although i seem to remember bob alone having around 2-3k membership at the time and im sure ascn did not have 8-12k but hey im sure your "facts" as per usual will fit in with your little obsession. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:10:00 - [5] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 16:11:26 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN My bad i must have included all the so called pets goons claim and continue to post about that bob had fight along side them (and win their wars for them alegedly) in my calculations. Although i seem to remember bob having around 2-3k membership at the time and im sure ascn did not have 8-12k but hey im sure your "facts" as per usual will fit in with your little obsession. Your numbers are way off but hey don't let that interfere with you changing the goalposts on this conversation again. How much of a margin is your hopeless case scenario where a large group can't possibly be defeated by a smaller one. Please keep claiming that "ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1" and that its my figures that are off and that im "self delusional" its the best giggle ive had in ages. How about you run along and get some actual facts and figures to back up such stupid claims before you actualy post them or even better stick to your normal one line posts like, stop posting or bob alt and the like because actual factual and detailed debates are obviously beyond you without resorting to juvinille insults. Theres plenty of threads about the bob ascn war and the d2 war for that matter im sure one of them can provide you with the figures you will need, that is if you can either be bothered to check them as they will make you look even more foolish. Im sure you will try to include or exclude various pets/allies so your figures may look near the mark im looking forwards to seeing it. Although you will proly just post what you think is a cutting remark and bow out you normaly do. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:35:00 - [6] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 16:39:50 Originally by: Nekumi ASCN where the biggest alliance in the game before the BoB war numbering over 4000, some people I've talked to have mentioned figures of up to 5500. BoB where trim around 1k maybe at most 2k but I personally don't know if they where that big by then and they really only started hitting 2k members after the fall of LV. I've had a quick look at Serenity Steeles website but unfortunately the history for corp membership doesn't go back further than ninety days. That's about as much effort as I'm willing to bother with trying to school a little troll alt soz. So 4000-5500 hey lets call it 6000 just for you against bob plus pets (i would not want to not include the pets as it would upset all the other members of your alliance who tell me over and over bob did nothing alone). Id say come to 2.5 to 3k max maybe more depending on what the argument is about and what goon you are arguing with. IE; More pets if its about how bob won their wars and less if its about summat like this but 2.5k or even 2k will do for now. So by my math 2.5k or 2k x 4 = 10,000 or 8000 but ascn only had 6000 although most say a lot nearer to 4000 and a lot of alts (see how generous i am with 6k just for you) i guess you need to go back to goonie propoganda school and learn not to post claims about things you know nothing about. PS; Nice alt insult at the end there i suggest you stick to just them in future its your area trust me. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:02:00 - [7] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:05:55 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:04:25 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN So 4000-5500 hey lets call it 6000 just for you against bob plus pets (i would not want to not include the pets as it would upset all the other members of your alliance who tell me over and over bob did nothing alone). Id say come to 2.5 to 3k max maybe more depending on what the argument is about and what goon you are arguing with. IE; More pets if its about how bob won their wars and less if its about summat like this but 2.5k or even 2k will do for now. So by my math 2.5k or 2k x 4 = 10,000 or 8000 but ascn only had 6000 (see how generous i am with 6k just for you) i guess you need to go back to goonie propoganda school and learn not to post claims about thing you know nothing about. PS; Nice alt insult at the end there i suggest you stick to just them in future. You seem to be having problems here. You jump up to 2-3k including bob allies and pets for some reason, and funnily enough you pull the numbers out of your arse. Oh wait it's to mitigate the fact that your are completely wrong and ASCN did in fact outnumber BoB by about 4 to 1. You're the one that stated a smaller entity can't defeat a bigger one and then proceed to ignore situations where this has already happened. Your supposition is built on ** and your logic is full of failure but I forgive you, you are only an alt after all. My inital point was that overwhelming numbers will always win against a lesser numbered foe and you made a claim that because ascn had over 4 x membership of bob that i was wrong and bob winning the war proved that numbers did not matter. I then claimed that ascn only had slightly more numbers so the term overwhelming did not apply. Here are the actual factual numbers from the time: In actual fact it was 1600 bob plus pets (il let you decide how many pets to include but i suggest you remember it for future referance cos i will). Against a max of 5000 ascn but if you read the threads of the time the figures do not match because a lot of ascn did not participate in the fights. But even if it was just 1600 bob vs 5000 ascn thats still with your claim of 4-1 then ascn should have been at least 6400 strong and that is if you do not include bobs pets in the equation. Your out by 1400 ppl (the size of a very large alliance at that time). Now i have found a link from all the way back then that i got these figures and facts from do you?.** PS; i did not include MC in the figures either. PPS: id say its your figures that come out of your arse but then your a goon so ppl kinda expect it. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:36:00 - [8] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:44:06 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN My inital point was that overwhelming numbers will always win against a lesser numbered foe and you made a claim that because ascn had over 4 x membership of bob that i was wrong and bob winning the war proved that numbers did not matter. I then claimed that ascn only had slightly more numbers so the term overwhelming did not apply. Here are the actual factual numbers from the time: In actual fact it was 1600 bob plus pets (il let you decide how many pets to include but i suggest you remember it for future referance cos i will). Against a max of 5000 ascn but if you read the threads of the time the figures do not match because a lot of ascn did not participate in the fights. But even if it was just 1600 bob vs 5000 ascn thats still with your claim of " dwarfed at least 4-1" then ascn should have been "at least" 6400 strong and that is if you do not include bobs pets in the equation. Your out by 1400 ppl (the size of a very large alliance at that time). Now i have found a link from all the way back then that i got these figures and facts from do you?. PS; i did not include MC in the figures either. PPS: id say its your figures that come out of your arse but then your a goon so ppl kinda expect it, but i do not forgive you because even a **** would have learned by now. I figure seeing as how you have ignored my first example and created a numbers war neither you nor I care to verify to any sort of scientific certainty I'll just list a few alliances and corps who consistently fight outnumbered and have prevailed. Mercenary Coalition (most Merc corps actually but these more than others), Outbreak, Beagle Corp, Burn Eden, old school Triumvirate, Pandemic Legion, Red Alliance, Band of Brothers, TCF. Your argument and your points are feeble and I'm pretty sure I'm done with you now. Your the one ignoring things, like the fact i said in a terratorial war for starters, and as far as my figures are concerned they come from a post from back then as i said in my previous post, if you had bothered to read it instead of trying to bail out you would have seen it. Il link where i got my facts from here for you; You wont like it cos it also has ascn ppl stating that a lot of them are not turning up to fight. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 5000 vs 1600 without pets or mc included in the figures. 1600 x 4 = 6400 not 5000, go away and take youre inefectual and insulting trolling somwhere else. As for as any of those ppl you listed above id love for you to show me a link where they took space while outnumbered over 4-1 but you cannot because your a fool with no fact and only an idea how those alliances operate. SIG BELOW: Originally by:** Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 17:52:00 - [9] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:55:51 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 17:54:58 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN Your the one ignoring things, like the fact i said in a terratorial war for starters, and as far as my figures are concerned they come from a post from back then as i said in my previous post, if you had bothered to read it instead of trying to bail out you would have seen it. Il link where i got my facts from here for you; You wont like it cos it also has ascn ppl stating that a lot of them are not turning up to fight. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 5000 vs 1600 without pets or mc included in the figures. 1600 x 4 = 6400 not 5000, go away and take youre inefectual and insulting trolling somwhere else. As for as any of those ppl you listed above id love for you to show me a link where they took space while outnumbered over 4-1 but you cannot because your a fool with no facts and no idea on how those alliances operate Resorting to personal attacks when you can't back up the misinformation you post is something I thought was beneath even you. I re-added all the FACTS that you cut out you should realy read the link instead of changing the subject. I posted no misinformation only facts i got from links on this forum your the one making stupid claims and quoting non existant and dreamed up figures. Do you like my new sig btw. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:10:00 - [10] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:11:59 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: HEY LISTEN I re-added all the FACTS that you cut out you should real read the link instead of changing the subject. So your main argument now is that it was 3 to 1 and not 4 to 1 like I admittedly guessed in my first post. Like I said in my second and third posts, numbers games don't interest me especially when you quote second hand information as FACT. My prior summation is what you are failing at trying to prove but hey, quote some more, call me some more names and fight against the inevitability of your own inconsistencies. Maybe eventually you'll be able to break through that barrier you've thrown up around yourself and actually see the terrible terrible quality of the words you tap out in ineffectual frustration. You make a claim that ascn had "at least 4-1 and it turns out that it was actualy considerably less than 3-1 if you include MC and all the bob pets not only that but on the link thread i showed you have actual ASCN members pointing out that they have poor attendance and you say im the one with second hand info?. The point i was making and the one you have totaly failed to disprove with the figures you claimed to know (and are now in my sig) is that overwhelming numbers = win as far as terratory wars in eve at the moment is concerned. Nothing you have claimed or posted has even dented that because its the truth, the best you could do is claim the 4-1 bob ascn odds as an example but with no actual research done on the true figures and that now have been proven to have absolutly no basis in truth from the mouths of actual ascn members. So your either a liar or a fool and i suggest that unless you have links to posts that actualy prove or counter my claims that you stop posting cos you are looking like a total idiot with your made up figures. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:18:00 - [11] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:20:20 Originally by: Nekumi Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 18:11:40 Originally by: HEY LISTEN You make a claim that ascn had "at least 4-1 and it turns out that it was actualy considerably less than 3-1 if you include MC and all the bob pets not only that but on the link thread i showed you have actual ASCN members pointing out that they have poor attendance and you say im the one with second hand info?. The point i was making and the one you have totaly failed to disprove with the figures you claimed to know (and are now in my sig) is that overwhelming numbers = win as far as terratory wars in eve at the moment is concerned. Nothing you have claimed or posted has even dented that because its the truth, the best you could do is claim the 4-1 bob ascn odds that have absolutly no basis in truth. So your either a liar or a fool and i suggest that unless you have links to posts that actualy prove or counter my claims that you stop posting cos you are looking like a total fool with your made up figures. You know, if you keep saying something over and over again it might work. Put up or stfu pal heres my link to my figures wheres yours?. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 Not more empty words, not comments of look back at my posts in the vain hope that ppl will not think your a total moron, proof of 4-1 odds and that overwhelming odds are NOT the deciding factor in terratorial wars in eve atm or stfu. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:47:00 - [12] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:50:04 My original post and your standard unsubstantiated trolly one liner. Originally by: HEY LISTEN In that case your wrong on both counts cos in eve at the moment those with the overwhelming numbers will win eventualy every time. If you wanna call getting the pilots to the system they are attacking logistics then go ahead but the plain simple truth is that its all about the numbers when you are holding or taking space. In smaller more balanced battles say 30 vs 60 or so then id agree that fleet managment and having individualy skilled pilots can have the 30 walk away with a mayor win as ive done it many times myself. But in space holding warfare with thousands on both sides the ppl with the tens of thousands will always beat the guys with only a few thousand even if the tens of thousands suck at logistics, pvp skill or fleet managment. Originally by: Nekumi Tell that to ASCN or D2. My counter claim backed up by quotes/forum links taken from ascn members at the time and your claim of knowing differing numerical facts: Originally by: HEY LISTEN Why they only had slightly greater numbers not overwhelmingly greater. Originally by: Nekumi Your self delusion is magnificent to behold. ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. So now you know the exact figures (linkage to ascn members confirming my facts and quoting that they had crappy attendance http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421699&page=6 ) and they should realy include MC and the rest of bob pets who is the "self deluded" one?. PS: I think its gr8 that you seem to be arguing that bob fought and won harder wars alone and more outnumbered than they actualy realy did lol your the worst goon troll ever. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 18:55:00 - [13] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 18:56:31 Originally by: Nekumi Your failure at comprehension is beyond my powers to remedy. Sorry, I really can't help you now if you haven't gotten it yet. I actualy post your own comments and the exact way the conversation went and you still try to claim that it is not the truth. Is making claims that i do not understand summat the only thing you can think of to do in the hopes to not look like a total fool. You fail on so many levels is beyond a joke or would you like to point out with the actual copy pasted details as i did what was missed from our little discussion. Let me guess your gonna let me figure it out on my own or some other avoidance one liner perhaps even a snip showing only a insult hey? SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:02:00 - [14] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 19:06:21 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 19:02:56 Originally by: HEY LISTEN I actualy post you own comment and the exact way the conversation went and you still try to claim that it is not the truth. Is making claims that i do not understand summat the only thing you can think of to do in the hopes to not look like a total fool. You fail on so many levels is beyond a joke or would you like to point out with the actual copy pasted details as i did what was missed from our little discussion. Let me guess your gonna let me figure it out on my own or some other avoidace one liner Originally by: Nekumi I'm terribly sorry if English is not your first language but your failure at comprehension just beggars belief. You seem to be caught up in some internal argument of your own creation but at least you seem happy with the result and I would not begrudge anyone some happiness. Originally by: HEY LISTEN "Let me guess your gonna let me figure it out on my own or some other avoidace one liner" And the prediction comes true FTW!!!!!!!. Avoiding the question/challenge to prove your claims and a insult all in one tidy little package. Way too low brow tbqfh but like you say im sure some children on here thiunk your clever or at least they will when they learn to read. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 19:20:00 - [15] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 19:22:58 Originally by: Nekumi Congratulations, if only there was some way I could have known you would respond the way you did too. If only this argument you seem to have caught up in wasn't resolved about ten posts ago. Oh my whatever shall I do. You truly win at internets and I am humbled and shamed at once. You can put this piece of fiction in your sig as well if you it makes you feel better. Walter Mitty got nothing on you. Originally by: Murina I can honestly say will only update my sig if you make another stupid and uneducated statment. So maybe a hour or so I was gonna refrain from this but i have to say it. KABLAMMO!!!! SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:49:00 - [16] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 20:51:33 Originally by: ElweSingollo Originally by: Murina Edited by: Murina on 06/02/2008 20:06:03 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Murina Close but no cigar. Yeah it's not really the same. I should've posted with an alt and then quoted with that. mittens is better at this than you are by far but hey its the first chance you have had for a real derail so il go with it for a while if you like. Any particular reason you choose to post as hey listen instead of this character? never been able to understand peoples fascination with posting with alts -_- I dunno about anybody else but i post with a alt for several reasons It annoys goons and others that its not my main plus my personal views and observations may be as honest and factual as i can make them but that does not mean that they are very PC or in line with the corp/alliance i may be with at any particular time. So far ive been called a bob alt, goon alt, razor/mm alt, ex-lv/v alt, A alt alt (lol i loved that one) and several other ideas that ppl come up with depending on who i am replying too. Goons think im a bob ex-lv alt bob thought i was a goon alt others think im who ever they are fighting alt basicaly. Mostly its goons although that is because of how much they tend to plaster over the forums more than any particular reason although in fact 2 of the 3 forum warnings/bans i have had are from irritating bob posters and or swearing at them ( the last one was from tellin dafuzz to "bow me" i think). SIG BELOW: Originally by:* Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:53:00 - [17] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 21:54:21 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 21:53:30 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN I dunno about anybody else but i post with a alt for several reasons It annoys goons and others that its not my main plus my personal views and observations may be as honest and factual as i can make them but that does not mean that they are very PC or in line with the corp/alliance i may be with at any particular time. So far ive been called a bob alt, goon alt, razor/mm alt, ex-lv/v alt, A alt alt (lol i loved that one) and several other ideas that ppl come up with depending on who i am replying too. Goons think im a bob ex-lv alt bob thought i was a goon alt others think im who ever they are fighting alt basicaly. Mostly its goons i reply too although that is because of how much they tend to plaster over the forums more than any other particular reason. Although in fact 2 of the 3 forum warnings/bans i have had are from irritating bob posters and or swearing at them ( the last one was from tellin dafuzz to "bow me" i think). I'm glad that my post on this subject, in some small way, contributed to the shocking exposure of HEY LISTEN's true character. Which begs the question, why didn't you just post with your main? I may talk idiocy, but I don't delude myself into thinking I am important enough for anyone to care... My mains (one of them anyway) name has been posted on this forum plenty of times id hardly call this a revalation, mittens has done it on several occasions. Plus you just copy pasted my reply above to sombody who asked why i post with a alt and then the very next sentance ask the same question???. Your right you do talk idiocy and if you do not think anybody cares why post or reply at all. Your very odd. SIG BELOW: Originally by:* Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:25:00 - [18] Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Btw who do you consider "sombody" in this virtual game of internet spaceships id be very interested to know cos you obviously would consider their opinions very important. Yeah that was mean so I edited it (before your post)... Let me rephrase..."your main is a nobody," as in no one who could reasoanbly considered to have diplomatic/other repercussions for mouthing off on CAOD. What makes you think im not a FC and one of the decision makers/leaders in my corp/alliance or that you know anything about the structure or policies of my corp/alliance?. The cyno alt you and others think of as my main is a member of a alliance that not long ago was in delve shooting at bob and so i decided to post with a alt to avoid any political repercussions. Now you may wish to think of me my corp or my alliance as nobodys and that is your choice but your opinion in no way changes the fact why i chose to post with an alt nor can you predict what repercussions would have happened had i chose to post with my cyno alt or even one of my actual mains. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:27:00 - [19] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:27:28 Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 06/02/2008 22:17:41 Wasn't it Murina/HEY LISTEN who claimed his main was fighting against BoB as if it gave some legitimacy to his alt posting? So basically he is full of ** entirely. So you say that TI were not in delve shooting at bob not so long ago?. I guess its you who are full of hey pal but then im used to morons from goons not checking simple facts. SIG BELOW: Originally by:** Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:30:00 - [20] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:31:35 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 06/02/2008 22:28:39 Originally by: HEY LISTEN Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Btw who do you consider "sombody" in this virtual game of internet spaceships id be very interested to know cos you obviously would consider their opinions very important. Yeah that was mean so I edited it (before your post)... Let me rephrase..."your main is a nobody," as in no one who could reasoanbly considered to have diplomatic/other repercussions for mouthing off on CAOD. What makes you think im not a FC and one of the decision makers/leaders in my corp/alliance or that you know anything about the structure or policies of my corp/alliance?. The cyno alt you and others think of as my main is a member of a alliance that not long ago was in delve shooting at bob and so i decided to post with a alt to avoid any political repercussions. Now you may wish to think of me my corp or my alliance as nobodys and that is your choice but your opinion in no way changes the fact why i chose to post with an alt nor can you predict what repercussions would have happened had i chose to post with my cyno alt or even one of my actual mains. Well, because... Hmmm..... How can I put this delicately. You are kind of a loon. Better than a arrogant fool who decides on ppl importance without knowing a single thing about them. Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:40:00 - [21] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:41:49 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:40:36 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Id still like you to post a list of ppl you consider important it should be gr8 reading. Listen, obviously I have hurt your feelings, and I am sorry. You are very important, you are a unique and special snowflake. Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish and sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve. Come on it does not have to be a long list just the top 5 important ppl in our little internet space ship game. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:46:00 - [22] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:46:30 Originally by: Amiable Quinn Originally by: HEY LISTEN Still waiting for your mr important list bud or are you gonna avoid it and keep posting childish sarcastic reversals in hopes that it will make you look less arrogant cos of your decision to grade how important ppl are in eve. Wow. It's like you can see directly into my soul. My sarcasm and arrogance are just defense mechanism because I am afraid to love... Still waiting for the uber important player list and reading more self depreciating posts that are done in a vain hope for an lees embarressing out of the hole he dug himself. Ok how about the top 3 important ppl in the eve universe?. SIG BELOW: Originally by: Nekumi ASCN alone dwarfed BoB at least 4 to 1. ascn = 5000 bob=1600 without pets/MC 1600x 4= 6400 You see goons do not blob on purpose they are just too stupid to count
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.07 00:16:00 - [23] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 07/02/2008 00:23:04 Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 06/02/2008 22:27:28 Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 06/02/2008 22:17:41 Wasn't it Murina/HEY LISTEN who claimed his main was fighting against BoB as if it gave some legitimacy to his alt posting? So basically he is full of ** entirely. So you say that TI were not in delve shooting at bob not so long ago?. I guess its you who are full of ** hey pal but then im used to morons from goons not checking simple facts. See above for my thoughts on what you want or think lol you cannot even get your simple facts right. And if i posted with my cyno alt or my main it would'nt get under your skin and give you summat to b*tch about.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Devian 666 I vote HEY LISTEN as the most psychologically disturbed poster on the eve-o forums. Calm down. i vote for HEY LISTEN as well.

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